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Slicy - Combat/Subtlety Rogue [Declined]

 
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Slicys



Joined: 04 May 2012
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 10:40 pm    Post subject: Slicy - Combat/Subtlety Rogue [Declined] Reply with quote

:: Application ::
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Character Details
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Character Name: Slicy

Class: Rogue

Level: 85



(Provide us with a link to your profile in the Armory) http://eu.wowarmory.com/

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/kazzak/Slicy/simple

Professions and Skill Level:
Leatherworking: 525
Jewelcrafting: 525
Cooking: 525
First Aid: 525
Fishing: 525
Archaeology: 525

What Elixirs/Flasks/Buff food do you use in raids to boost your performance?
Flask of the Winds (300 agility)
Food buff: Skewered Eel (90 agility and 90 stamina)
And i prepot with Potion of the Tol'vir (1200 agility for 25 sec)


Describe what you think you would bring to our guild if accepted. (raiding and social aspects)

I would begin by saying that i can attend every raid , i allways log 30 min before raid begins, i allways bring my food, flasks, potions. During the raid time im focused and can handle the criticism if its the case.

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Character History
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Previous Guilds:
Afterdawn - Trollbane
Cobra - Trollbane
Currently Midnight Express - Kazzak


Reason for Leaving:
Afterdawn times where nice, but the lacking of ppl and progress made me move on and joined Cobra during Firelands. They decided to move on Kazzak, and soon after they moved they disbanded, GM decided to quit playing and everyone moved to different guilds. Atm im in Midnight Express, which i cant complaing about, but we have 2 groups of 10 man and my group atm is lacking some members every week.

When did you start this character and how long have you /played ?

I started this character during Wotlk during Naxxramas and my played time is 98 days.



What encounters and raids have you experienced in Cataclysm? Please state if it was on 10man or 25man and was it normal or heroic

BwD: 6/6 normal (10 man)
BoT: 4/4 normal (10 man)
ToTW: 2/2 normal (10 man)
Firelands: 7/7 normal, 6/7 heroic (10 man)
Dragon Soul: 8/8 normal, 5/8 heroic (10 man)



What previous raid experience do you have on this char? Please only mention stuff you did at the time when it was a current raid, we dont need to know you can clear black temple when you are level 85.

So i started to raid on this character when Ulduar was released and cleared full normal content both 10 and 25 man and just few hard modes on 25 man, also did OS 3D, EoE few times on this char. ToC was the worst raid in my opinion during Wrath of the Lich King, so just done few times only normal mode. However when ICC opened the gates i was so excited and joined in a 10 man guild. We managed to clear full 10 man without the buff and 8/12 HC with 5% buff, giving us 5th place on realm, we tried to switch to 25 man but that didnt work so well and the GM decided to change realm, so after that the guild hardly managed to finish WoTLK with 11/12 HC. Ruby Sanctum was just the fill raid in my opinion to finish the expansion, however i've done only 10 man normal during that time.


What do you think YOUR responsibilities are in a raid? :
Give a original answer here, saying to buff and dps/heal/tank isnt really worth mentioning

Having knowledge of the encounters, also trying to do the best of my char on every encounter, as i mentioned up i allways stay focused and following what the Raid Leader saying.


What is your Spell Rotation ?

As im currently playing Combat the rotation isnt that hard so im gonna list my rotation:

Single Target:
- I start with Killing Spree to get the dps boosted
- Sinister Strike up to 3 or 4 CP
- Slice and Dice
- Sinister Strike again to 3 or 4 CP
- Revealing Strike
- Eviscerate
- Usually now its the perfect time to use Adrenaline Rush since the slow energy regen in order to keep the dps up
After that i repeat the rotation and getting as much as possible Eviscerate to get Killing Spree and Adrenaline Rush off CD.
If happens to have a bleed effect on target i place a Rupture there aswell
Also i use allmost on every encounter Feint on CD to make the healers less stressfull to heal.
AOE:
- FoK
- Blade Flurry

On some encounters where i need to pop some Cooldowns i use Cloak of Shadows and if its the case Evasion.


Also Post a UI Screen Shot (this is so we know how you see whats around you)

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8130/wowscrnshot050512010442.jpg



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Technical Information
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Do you have oRA3 Deadly Boss Mods and OMEN ?
Yes i do. These should be priority for every raider

PLease list any other add ons you use to help you raid.

TrickorTreat
MikScrollingBattleText
Recount
RaidAchievements
Fatality

Do you have a microphone & Ventrilo installed?
Yes i do

Describe your skills in spoken english:
Im not speaking fluent English but i can understand everything

What's your connection & computer hardware?
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1932689930.png

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2300 CPU 2.80 GHz
6 GB RAM
Video: GeForce GTX 460

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General Information
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Age: 22

Country: Romania

Why did you choose to apply to this guild in particular?
The raid time is perfect for me, and also im looking for a 25 man guild

Players you know / How did you come across us?
I have seen a recruitment message and i had a chat with Crabby

Alts and Level (if any):
Protection/Fury Warrior: 85
Protection Paladin: 85
Resto/Balance Druid: 85
Priest (currently leveling)
Warlock (currently leveling)

Are you or any of your alts currently guilded?:
Yes

Did you read our Rules & Policies?
Ofc


What days can you play and what hours during those days (Please let us know now so no confusion is caused if you were to be accepted)?:
(Members are required to be available for raiding at least 3/5 nights week with higher attendance prefered.) Raid days are Sun-Thur, 2000-2330 server time we do occasionaly stay later if we are close to a kill. Fri & Sat are off nights but if people are online we try to do alt runs or RBG's.

I can play from Sunday to Thursday without any problems, i work from 9:30 AM to 18 PM, so during the evening im free any time.

Previous online gaming experience (if any):
Counter-Strike Smile and thats all as i started to play wow since vanilla.


Anything else you'd like to include about yourself:

First time in the morning when im sitting on pc is to look on forums for news about Rogue and changes in the next patches/expansion.
So thats about my application, i hope you wont be dissapointed guys and i hope i can get a chance as a trial for Cerebral, and hopefully a spot in the team.
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Crabby
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you deleted the question on dps report or world of logs report we wont continue to look at app till this is up.
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Slicys



Joined: 04 May 2012
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:16 am    Post subject: Here is some dumy test Reply with quote

Here is what i did on dumy test

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/7454/wowscrnshot050512141408.jpg
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you we will take a good look over this same as the other few apps we got and have an answer over the next few days.

GL
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

im alittle concerened that ur rotation is wrong in so many ways either u just typed what u know u press in a fight or thats ur rotation .....

Also 1/8 hc is WAY off the experience we would expect at this late time in the expansion and also ALL your gear is just normal mode lvl and daggers make it alittle higher so in general its low.


Not really what we want for a rogue spot as the 2 we have are very good.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

message from Slicy

" First of all, thank you for your answer even if was negative one, but im alittle confused about it..im not 1/8 hc im 5/8 hc... its true i have no HC gear at all simply 10 man drops suck... Also my dps cant be that high without raid buffs and procs. About my rotation i dont understand why do u say its wrong... Combat has the easiest rotation from all three specs build CP with SS then get SnD ... 3 or 4 CP afther revealing strike and hit Eviscerate as a finisher. KS on deep insight.

Also with my current gear on Ultrax HC 10 i did 41k so cant say im low dps."


Ok since you messageed me ill reopen it but i will need to get Didior and clans to explain in depth but first off WE KNOW what dps we should be looking at from dummies gear/lvls and such and having 397 ish gear PLUS Legend daggeres id expect more.....

As for rotation i do belive one of the biggest fails was Opening with KS for a dps boost that alone will give u a loss...

Ill get didi to explain more in depth

and gl once didior as explained we will wait for an answer from yourself to explain why
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didiork



Joined: 10 Jan 2012
Posts: 80

PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello mate, combat truly isnt a complicated spec but there are some "rules" to it espec with the fangs.

So the rotation for Combat is:
Keeping SnD up
SS for combo building, RS ONLY at 4cp and before a Evi (common misconception that it works with SnD)
5cp Evi finishers
AR,KS,TOT on cd (for KS now its better to use it ON CD, but keep track for ur energy and Insight when doing so)


Slicys wrote:

What is your Spell Rotation ?

As im currently playing Combat the rotation isnt that hard so im gonna list my rotation:

Single Target:
- I start with Killing Spree to get the dps boosted
- Sinister Strike up to 3 or 4 CP
- Slice and Dice
- Sinister Strike again to 3 or 4 CP
- Revealing Strike
- Eviscerate
- Usually now its the perfect time to use Adrenaline Rush since the slow energy regen in order to keep the dps up
After that i repeat the rotation and getting as much as possible Eviscerate to get Killing Spree and Adrenaline Rush off CD.
If happens to have a bleed effect on target i place a Rupture there aswell
Also i use allmost on every encounter Feint on CD to make the healers less stressfull to heal.


The highest portion of a combat rogues damage comes from mellee attacks so at the start u must prioritize geting SnD up wheter by 1 or 2 SS, and remember u also do white damage during KS so u using it at the very start is such a waste. After SnD is up u continue with SS until u either dip low energy or get 5 cp (RS if at 4cp ofc) and u use KS at this moment which is Shallow Insight already, when KS is finished u pop AR immediately and Evi at 5cps, u wont lose any Restless Blades procs this way and u knock 10sec off AR at the same time you used it. And after that you continue with the standard rotation.

As for using rupture, under perfect conditions and perfect execution with a bleed debuf present it is barely a 1% dps upgrade.
Tho its very easy to mess it up since, u shouldnt use it in deep insight, shouldnt use it during cleaves, and if u mess it up it can quickly become a dps loss not to mention that without using it u have one finisher less. So its quite better droping it completely out and going 3/3 in Coup de Grace and 2/3 Lethality especialy with the fangs.

I think i covered all, tnx for reading.
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Slicys



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:26 pm    Post subject: HI, thx for reopening Reply with quote

Yes thats true, also forgot to mention in my application about KS to use it on Deep Insight, also about ToT didnt mention bcs i got it macroed on my focus target which is obvious to be casted on the begining and then on CD with low enegery since the 2 p bonus from tier. About Revealing Strike, u know that u cant use it every time on 4 CP since SS glyph has a 20% chance to add u an extra CP and its better to use it on 3 to not losing RS and then 1 last SS, or either if u are on 2 CP and SS procs which u can get 2 more CP then yes u can use RS on 4 CP.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:31 pm    Post subject: hi again Reply with quote

Also for AR i usually use it when i get no other procs from trinkets/BL/ or any other fast regen since its most likely to cap energy.
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Slicys



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:37 pm    Post subject: Hi Reply with quote

And i would like to see Didior's dps on dumy target if he doesnt mind as combat, tho i expect to be higher than me since he is HC geared. But id say that after 4 mins of fighting a dumy target he would drop to 34 35k.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats why i said only on 4cps u never should use it otherwise. Using it on 3 cps is suboptimal and u might lose a cp which is a dps loss. Using a SS on 3cps with a glyph proc can land you on 5cps directly or land you on 4cps when u can do a RS without losing a cp which is higher dps. btw this isnt something i made up it was known the moment RS was implemented and it has been that way since then. And for KS use it ON CD , u can wait but not too much, even shadowcraft sims it as a dps increase if u dont wait for bandits guile and use it on cd
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

didiork wrote:
Thats why i said only on 4cps u never should use it otherwise. Using it on 3 cps is suboptimal and u might lose a cp which is a dps loss. Using a SS on 3cps with a glyph proc can land you on 5cps directly or land you on 4cps when u can do a RS without losing a cp which is higher dps. btw this isnt something i made up it was known the moment RS was implemented and it has been that way since then. And for KS use it ON CD , u can wait but not too much, even shadowcraft sims it as a dps increase if u dont wait for bandits guile and use it on cd


Its not about his dps on a dummie I know what he can do and does on fights its about Yours and ur rotation was completly wrong

Thats my issue with ur app Gear not great dps Avg and u got daggers and rotation was WRONG..
i dont need to make players Reapp when there doing well in the guild and are members.
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Slicys



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 2:04 pm    Post subject: Hi Reply with quote

Yea well, i was just curious about his dps on dumy, but yea the best time to use RV its on 4 CP ...tho i still think and i know my dps its better on a boss fight. If i would've been so bad as u would might think i wouldn't bother to apply or struggle to reply. But anyway thx for taking your time to reply.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Hi Reply with quote

Slicys wrote:
If i would've been so bad as u would might think i wouldn't bother to apply or struggle to reply. But anyway thx for taking your time to reply.


well tech not true we have had SOOOO many bad apps inc some that are 333 ilvl bad expecting us to boost there gear. Bad players dont normally know there bad "Just low gear"

anyways im still not sure ur what we want
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