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Sorrow



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 3:37 pm    Post subject: pala holy application-sorrow [Declined] Reply with quote

So, you've read everything, especially Rules & Policies and are ready to apply?yes.


:: Application ::
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Character Details
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Character Name:sorrÖw

Class:paladin

Level:85



(Provide us with a link to your profile in the Armory): http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/kazzak/Sorr%C3%B6w/simple


Professions and Skill Level:jewelcrafting 525 / Enchanting 535


What Elixirs/Flasks/Buff food do you use in raids to boost your performance?mana potion-flask of the draconic-Severed Sagefish Head .


Desribe what you think you would bring to our guild if accepted. (raiding and social aspects) I'll do my best on all tried and fight ill garauntee good healing in all bosses will mention what i think about tac we r on and ill tank about our progress and trying to find best way for new bosses to make it easier for us and to my job better as much as i can .



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Character History
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Previous Guilds:Exabat


Reason for Leaving: They seems good guild but i think i deserve more of that there are some good guy with good skill of playing on high lvl raids , but there are rly bad officer and raid leader on this guild who dont know a shit about playing wow in high lvl and progresing So i think we are going to make progress any more now and in the future in MoP


When did you start this character and how long have you /played ? i stay this chat at Wotlk and i was also playing in tbc but not with this char i got almost 3 years xp on playing with pala and i even lvl uped my pala as holy so i know everything about my class and especially about my spec i play,
play time : 150 days



What encounters and raids have you experienced in Cataclysm? Please state if it was on 10man or 25man and was it normal or heroic : in T11 : i cleared bot / bwd / to4w but couldnt kill any bosses on hc mode since i was in dead server and there were no good guild on those server ( boulderfist) in fireland i was in boulderfist and i decide to join and freindly guild which was fun for us and we didint focus on raiding , so we just killed 4/7 hc but in DS i decide to start hardcore raiding like befor i was and i transfered kazzak and joined exabat cleared 7/8 hc but we didint have very good and skilled player so it take abit long



What previous raid experience do you have on this char? Please only mention stuff you did at the time when it was a current raid, we dont need to know you can clear black temple when you are level 85.
as i said before i didint play in tbc with this char but in wotlk i cleared naxx 10 toc 10/25 clear togc 10 fulll clear on current raid and togc 25, 2/5 , icc 10 :11/12 hc and icc 25 : 3/8 hc


What do you think YOUR responsibilities are in a raid? :trying to stay smooth,be patient,listen to what exactly leader want me to do but i still think about the boss we are progressing and ill try to do my best and do everything i can to do better by my own , and about my class i have good extra abilites like hand of protection and raid defensive Cooldown like aura master which i know when to use em well .
Give a original answer here, saying to buff and dps/heal/tank isnt really worth mentioning



What is your Spell Rotation ? judgment buff should be always always always active on me and i also use it cd by cd . also i use my holy shock cd by cd too cus its rly important and use my word of glory or light of dawn by 3 charge of my holy power



Also Post a UI Screen Shot (this is so we know how you see whats around you)atm i cant upload it right now cus im dropping this apply on my office ill add it as fast as i arrive home


And Post atleast a 3 min WWS or WMO Report on Test Dummie(Dps only)

www.wowmeteronline.com
www.worldoflogs.com

*seeing this will greatly help your app, if you have issues getting these reports please speak to a guild officer in game


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Technical Information
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Do you have oRA3 Deadly Boss Mods and OMEN ?yes , i use big wigs / DBM and omen3 ( ofc its not a must for healers )
(Please don't apply until you have)

PLease list any other add ons you use to help you raid. i use grid . micro scrolling battle text . fortex, recount , and Cooldown count . bartender

Do you have a microphone & Ventrilo installed?yes, ofc

Describe your skills in spoken english: its more than needed in wow and its also enough for real life Razz ( i have alot of forgein freind who i didint find em in wow )

What's your connection & computer hardware?im living in iran and inteternet connection here is not very well but i got my personal connection and i paying alot for it so its fine and even more than fine Razz
and about my Computer i havent fps problem ever in wow i played crysis 2 easily on my computer so wow shouldnt be any problem Very Happy
CPU:Intel Core i7 2600k
Memory: Geil 4Gig Triple channel 12Gig
VGA: Sapphire 6970 HD


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General Information
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Age:22

Country:iran

Why did you choose to apply to this guild in particular?i prefe to play in 25 man guild cus its more professional and ofc its more fun and in according to my gear and achive i think this guild is good option for me

Players you know / How did you come across us?i dont know any of u guys and i just saw u guys looking for a pala holy ( i checked in wow progress also )

Alts and Level (if any):i dont have any alts on this server

Are you or any of your alts currently guilded?:its just my pala , im still on exabat and waiting for ur answer

Did you read our Rules & Policies?yesh i have


What days can you play and what hours during those days (Please let us know now so no confusion is caused if you were to be accepted)?: i can play all days in week especially on nights
(Members are required to be available for raiding at least 3/5 nights week with higher attendance prefered.) Raid days are Sun-Thur, 2000-2330 server time we do occasionaly stay later if we are close to a kill. Fri & Sat are off nights but if people are online we try to do alt runs or RBG's.

Previous online gaming experience (if any):No its just wow

Anything else you'd like to include about yourself:i waste alot of time by playing with freinds and real life guilds in catalysm but i decide to come back and play wow with all my power again and ROCK !


Before applying be sure your willing to work hard on your character at level 85 and try to better it outside of raids by spamming heroics, farming mats for crafted gear that will improve your raid performance, and having it all gemmed and enchanted properly inc Helm and Shoulder Exalted rep Enchants.

All of the above will be monitored during your trial period so be willing to try hard.

GM : Crabby
Officers : Clanzie, Sonicator, Xtyx
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oomy
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spec looks good, just don't forget to swap out holy wrath glyph when your not on spine.

Gear looks good aswell just a couple things, you shield needs a 50 int gem rather than 25 + haste and you could swap out your boot enchant to haste or something as movement speed isn't exactly an issue in DS and even if it is you normally have divine protection for the burst of speed.

Really need that screenshot of your UI.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you really need to change your trinket, go LFR for the int and haste on proc one, you got 4 int haste gems when really you only need 2 and use one of the JC gems to replace the int+haste gems.

why gem int haste on the shield, since your not on the haste cap is 2513?

spec loose 1 point in protector of the innocent to judgement 80% over healing with that tallent so you really don't need it.

glyphs major, like why haven't you got the lay on hands one and why are you using LoD one? the 10% mana back on LoH is vital in 25 man fights or can be very handy when your down n our on mana

GL horn x
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Sorrow



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there u are thats the UI screenshot :http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=06012340871153548437&gk=hyip
-u are right about gems ill change em but i dont have any choice about my leg and chest cus if i use 50 intel gem ill lose my bonus and it sucks cus they are intel Smile
-about glyphs i have all glyph i need and change em on diffrent fight for example holy wrath or divine protection glyph ofc i dont use LOH glyph cus its useless
and about my trinket i was at spine today and i just used it at spine i got intel + haste trinket from Warlord ( the hc one ofc )
-about talent i dont know if u play with pala holy or not but its one of the best talent of pala holy and i dont care about over healing when it can help on my healing , its very usefull on hard bosses with alot of dmg like spine and madness and thats the point only , who care about over healing when it save me and save my mana ??
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you say LoH glyph is useless????Its 1 of the best glyphs for your mana..And fights like spine and madness you will have mana problem for sure..
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Sorrow



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i pref to use holy wrath glyph on spine atleast in 10 man and divine protection glyph on madness i findout they are more usefull
i cant talk about 25 man for sure cus i havent killed em on 25 man but im sure these 2 glyph is way way better than LOH glyph in 10 Man
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well LoH glyph was always 1 of the best glyphs that paladin can have for 10man and 25man!.

Divine protection glyph is not realy needed for madness because of you sac the tank or w/e and you pop divine protection you wont die for sure cause we did't use the glyph when we killed him and us both paladins use sac on tanks.

Holy wrath glyph is not realy needed too because the tanks can do ther own job by kiteing and stuning them by ther own and you cant say if 1 of the add is on low hp and u kill it with holy wrath...
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Sorrow



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well its my idea about my glyph and our tanks needed my holy wrath
anyway thx for informatation but i think glyphs are such a personal thing and it depends of ur playing and these 2 glyph is more better for me and the guild im progressing with .
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and yet ur still arguig a fact that EVERY guild that use HPallys have thoose glyphs LoH is a MUST and if u needed to stun shit on spine ur tanks fucking sucked.

LoH isnt even a Personal choice its a MUST since glyphs was used loh as always been a prime.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ignore zaquel, there is not haste cap for us and i have no idea why hes suggesting LFR trinkets when your ones are normal and heroic. Your talent spec is fine but as they say LOD is semi-useless when you can get 14 - 16k mana when you lay on hands.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oomy wrote:
Ignore zaquel, there is not haste cap for us and i have no idea why hes suggesting LFR trinkets when your ones are normal and heroic. Your talent spec is fine but as they say LOD is semi-useless when you can get 14 - 16k mana when you lay on hands.


simply becoz i dnt kno he got it 2day.
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Sorrow



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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

check this 2 link
They both using LOH glyph but not insdead of divine protection glyph and as both pala holy said Divine protection is useless they using it it insdead of light of dawn glyph cus they are on high lvl and dont need that but i still need that and i pref divine protection glyph insdead of 14 k mana every 10 min Smile
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/lightnings-blade/Ilonie/talent/primary
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/lightnings-blade/Smirk/talent/primary
but if u still think LOH glyph is better than divine protection glyph ill change it .
and also pls check ur palas glyph then tell me what imba guild doing
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/kazzak/Jaquel/talent/primary
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/kazzak/Ataraxeia/talent/primary
its rly fun to use glyph of the LOH which reduce the cd of LOH by 3 min and tell me what to do
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and i forgot to say about our tank THEY are not retard at all Holy wrath glyph at spine 10 man IS a must especially when im only pala
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorrow mate you might want to double check their glyphs before you say something and make yourself look a bit retarded. Their not using it because their on a higher level their using it because its BETTER. If you really think divine protection is useless then i suggest you don't bother joining.

Fyi by LOH glyph we mean divinity hence the 14k - 16k mana once a fight or twice on those longer ones.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL i never said divine protection is useless im keep telling its rly rly usefull maybe u should dubble check chats again Smile
both of ur pala holy said that and they dont have it
when i said " as both pala said its useless" i meant both pala who is in ur guild already not both pala from paragon and Me ><
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading this thread made my head hurt..

Paladin haste caps and such made me chuckle

Talk of glyphs which are purely down to personal choice/playstyle an the job you needa do, if the guy says they are better for 10man heroic and the set up he uses then im guna go out on a limb here and say they probably are. Ofcourse this probably changes for 25man for many different reasons....

I actually admire the fact this fella because instead of bein a cookie cutter hero he's got different things to help boost whatever it was his raid lacked ie stuns.. seems to know paladin from the sounds of it!

Sey...
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thx celoza ....
atleast some one understand this fact that there is diffrent between 10 and 25 and Glyph should change according the fight and tacs we going to do and setup of the raid ><
ty mate <3
and ofc im not going to talk about haste cap for pala
its just LOOL and there is nothing to talk about !
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im sorry but want to reread what you write or what?

"They both using LOH glyph but not insdead of divine protection glyph and as both pala holy said Divine protection is useless they using it it insdead of light of dawn glyph cus they are on high lvl and dont need that but i still need that and i pref divine protection glyph insdead of 14 k mana every 10 min"

You've clearly stated they both use LOH glyph, clearly said both pala said divine protection is useless and clearly said "they are on a high lvl" implying paragon. "but if u still think LOH glyph is better than divine protection glyph ill change it . " If you think its rly rly useful why don't you use it?

Zaquel never even mentions the divine protection glyph and atrax implies its not needed on madness (which it actually is) so please, before you decide to go back on yourself you might wanna ninja edit your posts.

Yes theres a difference between 10 and 25 but its miniscule compared to anything you do differently in terms of healing apart from avoid the use of holy radiance as much compared to 25 as there's less people grouped normally. the LOD glyph is pointless compared to the other options as without it you heal 6 people for 11736. with the glyph you heal 4 people 9780 (given my napkin math isn't wrong).
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just on the tank thing WTF drugs are u on? ive done and DO 10 man tanking aswell as 25 and if the tanks aint able to kite and use there own stuns ( and priest LGs) then im affraid they suck relying on others to do his job for him is funny and unescessary.

As for the Glyph argument LoH is a must the rest is Situatuional depending on fight
As for haste i actually removed a post due to the fact i had to LOL aswell talking about caps when its 3.5k and to do this u sacrifice ALL your manna is a joke also ( horn should know better) this is why i dont like people to speak on apps unless they actually have a clue.

And Celoza you havent done DS m8 on heroics its not even a choice u Need specific glyphs for specific fights :/ but i do agree i like sorrow having his opinions and not cookie cutting. But he also needs to remember thoose pallys he linked THERE IN PARAGON for a reason and are Exceptions to the rules of normal people lol.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well , Mate maybe i couldnt tell u guys what i meant very well and it make u mistake so ill tell it again Those pala from paragon used Divine protection / LOH / divine plea glyph which is best for sure
they didint use Light of dawn glyph which is still good for me to improve my healing done
but now the point is i should Chose between LOH glyph and divine protection glyph and i think Divine protection is way way better for harder boss like madness and spine Cus it help alot to contorol dmg on myself and belive me it save my mana alot more than 14 k which i get when i use my LOH Smile
but anyway i dont want to fight with all of u guys thats my idea and i findout i do better this way
and if u read the posts again a guy told me Divine protection glyph is useless at spine and madness which is Not
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crabby mate u are right our tank should be able to kite adds with their own abilites but when they dont and i can help em with a glyph and make a skill why i shouldnt do it ? i did this and we could kill the boss and that was good change , and thats why i say glyph is such a personal thing and ppl change their glyph in diffrent fight and diffrent guild , its not the thing we should fight for , u dont think so ?
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was jus speakin in general terms crabbeth about glyphs n shit since DS pretty much finished jus sayin atleast he thinks outside the box a bit...

Was never a fan of looking what top guilds players are doing because generally they are miles ahead and try all sorts of crazy tactics which need particular talents/glyphs..

If something works for you and your competitive with the other players and the job gets done then these things are irrelevant, the problem comes if your sucking and dont do something about it! (again generally speaking)
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i always try to be best on my class and spec so i try everything and most of em work for me and my guild
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorrow wrote:
Crabby mate u are right our tank should be able to kite adds with their own abilites but when they dont and i can help em with a glyph and make a skill why i shouldnt do it ? i did this and we could kill the boss and that was good change , and thats why i say glyph is such a personal thing and ppl change their glyph in diffrent fight and diffrent guild , its not the thing we should fight for , u dont think so ?


bad tank is a bad tank even if u put a cherry on top.

and i cant keep saying this WE ARE 25 its not a personal choice its a "U MUST USE IT " choice.

Im not saying ur views are wrong in "Trying things " but ur refusal to use that glyph / refusal to listen to people doing these fights and SUCCEFULLY isnt the type of person i wanna have to deal with
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